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Habib Dagher, Director, Advanced Engineered Wood Composites: "But it's more than just generating wind, it's how to use the wind. How to take that wind and how to make the best use of that electricity. We're proposing very efficient ways to store and utilize that electricity that have profound effects on the efficiencies--we're talking about efficiencies on the order of two to four that could be achieved by using, essentially, heat pumps. Heat pumps, the ground-loop heat pumps--as you know, the temperature 10 feet or below the earth stays close to 45 degrees farenheight--it's a wonderful place to get some calories and bring them into the house. You don't have to generate those calories--they're there. And that's what we're trying to do here--we're trying to use the electricity we generate from wind and bring it into the house, shift it into the house, rather than generate it using electricity, and that can get you, depending on the time of the year and the temperature outside, two to four times the benefits.

"Another major advantage is storage. If you look at plug-in electric vehicles--we've all been talking about them, but one thing we haven't talked about is that the majority of our energy usage actually is in transportation. Fifty percent of the energy budget for the family in Maine is in transportation, 40 percent is in heating. So, if we can cut that transportation part out by using electric plug-in vehicles and use them as a distributed battery that can store energy at night. When you go to plug in your car, the wind can be high, it can be low, and you can still charge your car. Then you can use it the next day, so it's a wonderful distributed battery that can be used to distribute the intermittency of the wind.

"Are we the only ones who are doing this? If we look across the Atlantic, unfortunately, the Europeans are way ahead of us. Again, they've been scratching their heads long before we have, they've been paying $7-$8 a gallon long before we have, so they're looking at solutions. In Europe, there are plans by 2030 to generate 150 gigawatts of off-shore wind capacity for Europe. One hundred fifty gigawatts--that's chart 16. They're calling wind energy and off-shore wind the third industrial revolution. They've created over 300,000 jobs in Europe in wind and wind-related businesses. We can do the same by driving in the direction of renewables as well.

"The question is, what is it going to take to go off shore? If you look at going off-shore, it's almost like a reverse Darwinian motion--we're actually going from land with wind technology over to off-shore. What it's going to require is developing floating platforms because the continental shelf in the United States drops off very quickly. 90% of that wonderful wind resource sits far off-shore and in deep water, so we need to develop these tension-like platform type solutions, and you can see of these structures on page six. We need an R & D program to be able to transfer some of that technology from Europe up to the United States, and also to transfer decades of deep-water off-shore drilling experience into the wind energy market.

"We have a detailed $100 million R & D plan that we're proposing that's in your sheets, but I'd like to summarize here very quickly. Off-shore wind is a wonderful U.S. natural resource. It sits close to where people need it--if you look at where the population centers are, we don't have to build large transmitters to get to those locations. We need your support to create a national off-shore wind energy initiative. A Manhattan plan for wind energy that can double the Pickens plan. We're ready to lead that in the state of Maine because we're in the eye of the heating hurricane. That's where Maine is right now. We're prepared to lead the nation and we're ready to do so if a national program is created. The other thing we'd like your help on is to develop the financial incentives--the PTC's--make sure those stay in place. And also develop a policy framework to allow the off-shore wind developments to take place. Thank you very much."


Senator Joseph Lieberman: "Thanks very much, doctor, that was actually very exciting testimony."

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